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		<title>You&#8217;re eating the standard 11 chicken breasts a day right?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Dogs have not the power of comparing. A dog will take a small piece of meat as readily as a large, when both are before him.”
- Samuel Johnson
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I am heading back from Nova Scotia on Christmas day and I get a call from my brother. He had forgotten to give me my [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="sqq">“Dogs have not the power of comparing. A dog will take a small piece of meat as readily as a large, when both are before him.”</span><br />
<span class="sqq">- Samuel Johnson</span></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #000080;">Average Read Time:</span> 00:06:04</em></p>
<p>I am heading back from Nova Scotia on Christmas day and I get a call from my brother. He had forgotten to give me my Christmas present before I left.  He tells me that he&#8217;s donated a few chickens to a family in Africa on my behalf. I always like these gifts, and was grateful. Before we end the call, he reminds me that it wasn&#8217;t 11 chickens but he hopes it will do the job, I laugh. Good memories.  Let me share the story with you.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-283" style="border: 2px solid black; margin: 5px;" title="drumstick" src="http://www.digitaltrainer.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/drumstick-300x294.jpg" alt="drumstick" width="300" height="294" />My first protein powder</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">I used to workout at a gym next to my high school almost everyday. I usually would workout with a couple buddies from football, but today I was hitting the weights with my brother, Kip. When we ended our workout we decided to check out the supplement store to try out some protein powder. We have no idea what we are looking for, so we talk to the salesman, a 300 lb man who could tear us in half like a phone book. Obviously, he knows a few things about getting big. </span></span><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">So we ask him, which kind of protein powder is good for us? </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">He explains that protein powder should supplement the diet, not replace it. To this day I still think this is a fair statement. Then he asks us a question that has long been a running joke between Kip and I, &#8220;You are eating the standard 11 chicken breasts a day right?&#8221; Kip and I look and stare at each other blankly, and we breakdown and both start laughing. I think the last time I had 11 chicken breasts in a day was when when we had a 20 piece bucket of chicken from KFC. Probably not what this guy was talking about. So why did this guy suggest 11 chicken breasts? How much protein should you have in your diet on a daily basis?</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong><span style="color: #800000;"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-284" style="border: 2px solid black; margin: 5px;" title="chicken" src="http://www.digitaltrainer.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/chicken-300x199.jpg" alt="chicken" width="300" height="199" />How much protein did this guy actually recommend?</span></strong></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">I went to my 1st year nutrition book, <em>Discovering Nutrition</em> (2006) by Insel et al. for this one. On average, a chicken breast weighs roughly 100 grams and contains about 30 percent protein or 30 grams. This however, is dependent on how the chicken was raised and fed. Free-range chickens can have 30-40 grams of protein where battery farmed chickens can have anywhere from 20 to 30 grams. Let&#8217;s go with the average.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">So how much protein did this guy tell me to take? 30 grams x 11 pieces a day&#8230;&#8230; <strong>330 grams</strong>. For my once 150 lb frame. In doing some math, this works out to be roughly <strong>2.2 grams of protein per pound</strong> or <strong>4.8 grams of protein per kilogram</strong> (for us Canadians). </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong><span style="color: #800000;">Sounds ok but what do the experts think?<img class="size-medium wp-image-285 alignright" style="border: 2px solid black; margin: 5px;" title="expert-panel" src="http://www.digitaltrainer.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/expert-panel-300x200.jpg" alt="expert-panel" width="300" height="200" /></span></strong></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">For the answer I decided to scour a few fitness and health blogs to see what they had to say:</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">The IF Life</span><br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">Mike over at <a href="http://www.theiflife.com">The IF Life</a> recommends between <a href="http://www.theiflife.com/2008/03/10/building-muscle-101-master-the-basics/">0.6 and 0.8 grams per lean pound</a> and <a href="http://www.theiflife.com/2008/08/26/the-michael-phelps-diet-and-gaining-muscle/">1.0 to 1.5 grams per lean pound</a> if you are trying to build muscle.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">Mark&#8217;s Daily Apple</span><br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">Mark over at <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com">Mark&#8217;s Daily Apple</a> recommends the following with his Primal Eating Plan: A minimum of <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-definitive-guide-to-the-primal-eating-plan/">0.5 grams per lean pound</a>, <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-definitive-guide-to-the-primal-eating-plan/">0.7 to 0.8</a> if active and as much as <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-definitive-guide-to-the-primal-eating-plan/">1.0 grams per lean pound</a> if trying to build muscle.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">Women&#8217;s Diet and Fitness</span><br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">Angie at <a href="http://womensdietandfitness.com/">Women&#8217;s Diet and Fitness</a> recommends <a href="http://womensdietandfitness.com/WDF/what-you-need-to-know-about-protein/">0.9 grams of protein per pound</a> to ensure your body burns fat, not muscle. She also recommends <a href="http://womensdietandfitness.com/WDF/what-you-need-to-know-about-protein/">1.0 to 1.5 grams per pound</a> if trying to build muscle.</span></span></span></span><br />
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<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">So each of the blogs have roughly similar recommendations.  Let&#8217;s see what my first year nutrition textbook recommends. <em>Discovering Nutrition</em> (2006) by Insel et al. suggests <strong>0.4 grams per pound</strong>, and <strong>0.5 grams per pound if pregnant or nursing</strong>. What about if you&#8217;re an athlete or trying to put on muscle mass? Well, they also recommend <strong>0.4 grams per pound</strong>. The text also has a catch though:  if your caloric intake is extremely high, follow what is called the AMDRs or the Acceptable Macronutrient Distribution Ranges. This is similar to a Zone Diet in principle, but the AMDR recommends 20-35% of calories coming from fat, 45-65% coming from carbs, and 10-35% coming from protein.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong><span style="color: #800000;">So, what&#8217;s a lean pound?</span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
Both Mike and Mark made their recommendations as a gram per lean pound. Bet you didn&#8217;t notice that. But my textbook didn&#8217;t bother mentioning a difference.  A lean pound is your weight if you were to trim the fat. So if you are roughly 30% body fat, and 200 lbs, that would leave you with 140 lean pounds. So if we are in that weight lifting crowd (as you should be) let&#8217;s see how the recommendations all come together.* As a side note, let&#8217;s put them in terms of chicken breasts too:</p>
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<td><span style="color: #000080;">Source</span></td>
<td><span style="color: #000080;">Grams of Protein</span></td>
<td><span style="color: #333399;">Number of Chicken Breasts</span></td>
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<td>The IF Life</td>
<td>140 -210 grams</td>
<td>4.7 &#8211; 7 chicken breasts</td>
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<td>Mark&#8217;s Daily Apple</td>
<td>140 grams</td>
<td>4.7 chicken breasts</td>
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<td>Women&#8217;s Diet and Fitness</td>
<td>200 &#8211; 300 grams</td>
<td>6.7 &#8211; 10 chicken breasts</td>
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<td><em>Discovering Nutrition</em> (2006)</td>
<td>80 grams</td>
<td>2.7 chicken breasts</td>
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<td>My KFC Bodybuilder buddy</td>
<td>330 grams</td>
<td>11 chicken breasts</td>
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<p><span style="color: #888888;">*For a 200lb, 30% body fat, non-pregnant, non-breastfeeding male.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong><span style="color: #800000;">Should I be eating 2.7 chicken breasts or 11?</span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">As you can see, we have a pretty big discrepancy over how much protein we should eat. If you are new to this nutrition game, let me catch you up to speed on how your body uses this protein. I like step-by-step, so  let&#8217;s do that.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">Step 1 &#8211; Eat a skinless, boneless, tasteless, chicken breast.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">Step 2 &#8211; Your stomach and small intestine use enzymes and acids to breakdown the proteins into peptides and amino acids.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">Step 3 &#8211; The important amino acids get absorbed into the blood stream where they go to the tissues (to build muscle, etc.) and to the liver to manufacture important substances.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">Step 4 &#8211; Some amino acids stay and float around the body. These are collectively called, the amino acid pool. All the leftover amino acids go to the liver and turn into ammonia. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">Step 5 &#8211; Amino acid pool stays. Ammonia goes to the kidneys and leaves the body.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #000000;">Piece of cake right? Now this is where it all comes together. Now the average body needs about 300 grams of protein everyday. I will explain in a minute how scientists came to that conclusion. But now you are thinking, geez, is my bodybuilding buddy right? There is one major catch. The body recycles it&#8217;s amino acids. By using that amino acid pool I talked about, the body recycles an average of 200 grams of protein a day! Doing some quick math, we can see that the body really only needs an average of 100 grams of protein (3.3 chicken breasts) from your diet. Go recycling!</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Nitrogen balance</strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">All the used up and leftover amino acids go into the liver and turn into ammonia. Ammonia is nitrogen and hydrogen mixed together, the downside to ammonia is that it is toxic to cells. The body has to get rid of it. So if you eat too much protein, it just comes out in your urine, feces, mucus, hair, and nail cuttings. Now this can be calculated, and from that measurement we can determine our nitrogen balance. So scientists can see how much protein goes in and how much comes out. This is how they found out that your body uses up roughly 100 grams. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;">Now if we exercise and look at our nitrogen balance then we can assume that if we use more protein, our nitrogen balance is going to be negative, less will go out than go in. Many studies have been done on this and the results have not been conclusive enough to sway the American Dietetic Association. However, if you have good kidney function this has been no evidence to support the fact that eating slightly more protein than recommended will cause any long term damage. If you want more information on this, search for nitrogen balance and exercise. You can definitely find quite a few journals on the topic. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><strong><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-286" style="border: 2px solid black; margin: 5px;" title="tuna-sandwich" src="http://www.digitaltrainer.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/tuna-sandwich-300x225.jpg" alt="tuna-sandwich" width="300" height="225" /></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>What I recommend</strong></span> </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #000000;">I would not recommend to ever take more 1.0 grams per pound of body weight. Stick with the 0.4 and bump it up anywhere from 0.5 to 0.8 grams per pound if you are exercising.  I try to stick with 20-30 grams of protein per meal (Breakfast, lunch, supper) and the same 20-30 grams of protein for an after workout snack. Here is a sample of how much protein to eat throughout the day. I would throw in a couple more fruit and vegetables than this, but this briefly sums up a sample daily meal. Nothing too fancy.</span> </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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<td><span style="color: #000080;">Breakfast</span></td>
<td>2 eggs, some bacon, toast</td>
<td>35 grams of protein</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><span style="color: #000080;">Lunch</span></td>
<td>Tuna sandwich (2), salad</td>
<td>28 grams of protein</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><span style="color: #000080;">Supper</span></td>
<td>BBQ chicken breast, mashed potatoes, asparagus</td>
<td>30 grams of protein</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><span style="color: #000080;">Snack</span></td>
<td>Smoothie with yogurt, milk and fruit</td>
<td>22 grams of protein</td>
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<p>So here we have 115 grams of protein. For my 220 lb frame, I&#8217;m looking at 0.5 gram of protein per pound. That&#8217;s ok, muscle will come with that. Don&#8217;t think you need to spend a fortune on protein bars, powders, or shakes. Your diet will suffice. But that, is a post for another time.</p>
<p>Your Digital Trainer,</p>
<p>Jeremiah Bell</p>
<p><em>Images by <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/midiman/">midiman</a>, <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/dnorman/">dnorman</a>, <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/djevents/">djevents</a>, <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/trekkyandy/">trekkyandy</a></em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #800000;">Comments:</span> Do you feel you get enough protein in your diet? Do you feel that 2.7 chicken breasts is too little? Is 11 too much?<br />
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